There’s never any question in my mind why I got out of animation. I didn’t like coming to work and begging. Get finished with your work, knowing that you need to make rent, wondering where the money is going to come from. When I would complete my scene, my director would tell me to go around and see if anyone else needed help. Imagine having to go from person to person like a Dickens character asking for alms just to keep your work day going. I wasn’t up to it, it got to my psyche. There were so many of us young bucks just out of college in the same situation that the full-time workers held a seminar on freelancing. The problem was, with no other skills handy, there wasn’t a lot of alternate freelancing available. Not one of us really knew how to go about doing that for a living. Eventually, most of us dispersed. For the ones that remained, most of them are over at Turner, working on Harvey Birdman. After 10 years of only communicating by email it was a pleasure to get to see Joe again. We probably bored the party by talking so much about the good old days, but honestly, working in a studio with someone is a lifelong fraternity. It’s like being in an army unit together. Being close to Atlanta again makes visits possible, I plan to take advantage.